Published: Mon, August 20, 2018

Rudy Giuliani Stuns NBC's Chuck Todd: 'Truth Isn't Truth'

Rudy Giuliani Stuns NBC's Chuck Todd: 'Truth Isn't Truth'

"The meeting turned into a meeting".

"Well, because the meeting was originally for the objective of getting information about, about Clinton". He didn't mention Clinton by name.

"But Trump tried to maintain that the truth is what he says the truth is " Vance continued, "and a couple weeks ago he said you can't believe what you see, you can't believe what you hear and at bottom it's this effort by his administration to convince the American people that there is no truth".

The President's outside legal team for the special counsel investigation, which is headed up by Giuliani, replied to Mueller's proposal for terms of possible presidential testimony earlier this month, but the former NY mayor wouldn't disclose the details of his team's response. It is illegal for a US political campaign to accept help from a foreign individual or government.

President Donald Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, has raised eyebrows by claiming that "truth isn't truth" during a television interview.

Giuliani joined Trump's legal team in April.

At which point, Giuliani did the only thing that came to mind: he dug deeper, into competing versions of events regarding former national security adviser Michael Flynn, Russia and fired Federal Bureau of Investigation director James Comey.

Asked by AM Joy fill-in host Rev. Al Sharpton "What just happened here?" ex-prosecutor Joyce Vance said the former New York City mayor is "in a very dark place".


Speaking to Chuck Todd on NBC's Meet the Press, President Donald Trump's lawyer was attempting to explain why his client hasn't spoken with the special counsel's office regarding its probe into Russia's involvement in the 2016 election, citing fears that the president may get "trapped into perjury".

"We are confident that he said nothing wrong about the president", Giuliani said on Fox, suggesting that McGahn would have resigned if he had. "Truth isn't truth", Giuliani retorted.

Trump's original legal team had encouraged McGahn and other White House officials to co-operate with special counsel Robert Mueller, and McGahn spent hours in interviews.

Mr Giuliani said: "I'm not going to be rushed into having him testify so can he can be trapped into perjury". If that's the situation, if two pieces of evidence - Trump says, "I didn't tell him", and the other guy says that he did say it, which is the truth?

When interviewer Chuck Todd shot back "Truth is truth", Giuliani replied, "No, it isn't truth".

"No, no, no. don't do this to me", Giuliani said. "We will release ours".

He added: "When you tell me that he should testify because he's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry, well that's so silly because it's somebody's version of the truth".

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